Young boy sitting in creepy-looking cave, crying - There's no such thing as naughty

THERE’S NO SUCH THING AS NAUGHTY: It’s just a concept we’ve made up

Last updated: junio 1st, 2018

Young boy sitting in creepy-looking cave, crying - There's no such thing as naughtyAdult: Did you know that there’s no such thing as naughty?

Child: Well, that’s just not true. Everyone knows about naughty.

Not quite everyone. There’s a little girl and a little boy living somewhere in the world who don’t know about naughty.

Why don’t they know?

They don’t know anything about naughty because nobody’s told them about it.

So they don’t have naughty in their world.

That’s quite right. In their world, there really is no such thing as naughty. So they’re never, ever naughty, because naughty doesn’t exist.

A world without naughty, that’s amazing. So they can do whatever they want, whenever they please and are never told off or punished?

They’re never punished because they don’t know about punishment, either.

They must be very, very naughty children then.

No, they can’t be, because they don’t have naughty in their world.

Well, that’s just silly. So if they aren’t naughty, what are they like?

They’re kind, they love and care about their family, friends and themselves, and they listen and help.Two happy kids, boy and girl, holding hands - There's no such thing as naughtyI don’t believe that children can be like that, not all the time.

You’re right, they aren’t like that all of the time.

Are they happy all the time and always having fun?

Sometimes they’re sad, worried, afraid, frustrated or angry just like everybody else.

Ah, so when they’re angry, surely they’re naughty.

No, they’re never naughty, because as I said, in their world there’s no such thing as naughty.

In our world, everyone thinks that children are naughty at least sometimes, don’t they?

Yes, and that’s why we have naughty.

I can’t believe that those children are never naughty. They have to be naughty sometimes. They just have to be!

Well, at times they might do something that’s unkind or even mean to someone else, and sometimes they blame themselves; but whatever they do, they don’t see it as naughty, because in their world, naughty doesn’t exist.

So they never, ever think that they themselves are naughty.

That’s right.

So if they don’t think that they’re naughty, what do they think about themselves?

They understand that they have all sorts of thoughts and all kinds of feelings.

So they think and feel the same as me.

Yes, and just like all of us, they like it when things to go their way, and they don’t like it when things don’t go so well.

I’m sure that sometimes they do things that are hurtful towards others.

Yes, sometimes they do things that hurt others, and what’s more, sometimes they just don’t want to do what a grown-up tells them to do. Sometimes they say no and refuse to do it.

That definitely happens with me.

Oh, and they don’t like it when their Mum or Dad or their teacher at school tells them they can’t do this and they can’t do that. Sometimes, when that happens, they become quite upset. 

Well, that’s just the same as me.

But the difference is, they don’t think any of that is naughty because no one has ever told them about naughty. They think it’s normal to be the way they are.

Oh, I see, so they don’t think that they’re naughty like I am sometimes.

They think it’s normal that sometimes they don’t want to do what a grown-up says they have to do, and sometimes they say, “No, I’m not going to do it.”

Sometimes I don’t want to listen.

They think it’s OK to be disappointed and upset when a grown-up tells them it’s time to stop, or that they can’t do something they want to do, especially when its something they really like doing.

I don’t like it when I’m not allowed to do things, and when I can’t have something I really, really want.

They understand that sometimes they have feelings that they don’t like having, and unkind thoughts about themselves and others, especially when they’re upset or angry.

So in their world, everyone is OK with all of that?

Their parents and teachers understand, and because they care about the children, they try to listen and want to help.

Does anybody tell them they’ve done this wrong or that wrong, and that they need to think about what they did and change or improve their behaviour, like they do with me?

They can be just as they are: to like and not like how things go, and be sad, angry or upset if that’s how they feel, because preferences and feelings are allowed.

Why aren’t grown-ups like that to all children? Why do grown-ups say all of that is naughty? They say, “Do as you’re told now, stop doing that this minute, do this and don’t do that, stop that right now, stop crying and calm down,” and all that telling-off stuff.

Grown-ups think that all children are naughty, at least sometimes, and that some children are more naughty than others.

It’s all because grown-ups believe in naughty, isn’t it?

Grown-ups believe in naughty, and because they do, they tell children that they’re naughty and punish them.

So ‘naughty’ and ‘punishment’ go together.

That’s how our world is, but if there was no naughty, there would be no punishment.

Wow, so have grown-ups made naughty up?

Yes, and what’s more, now that they’ve created and believe in naughty, they’re trying to make children not naughty. They want them to change their behaviour. 

So although grown-ups have made up naughty, it’s not what they want, because they actually don’t want children to be naughty.

They want them to be well-behaved and do what they say, right away. Otherwise, they’re naughty.

And now children believe in naughty as well, don’t they?

Yes, because they believe what the grown-ups believe, and trust that what they tell them is true.

Sometimes I try my best not to be naughty, but I don’t always know what’s naughty. Sometimes my feelings just come out and I’m sad or angry, and then I’m naughty.

Sometimes I just don’t want to do it.

Sometimes I just can’t stop myself and I’m very naughty.

You’re never naughty, never ever, and that’s the truth.

How can that be true, that I’m not naughty, not ever?

Because there really is no such thing as naughty.

Read the second part of this article series, THERE’S NO SUCH THING AS NAUGHTY: The McDonald’s incident»

[su_panel background="#f2f2f2″ color="#000000″ border="0px none #ffff" shadow="0px 0px 0px #ffff"]Author bio:

Dr. Mike Larcombe is a Clinical Psychologist working in the U.K. “There’s No Such Thing as Naughty” was written some years ago, and is a fictionalized account of some genuine conversations about “naughty” he had with young children.

[su_panel background="#f2f2f2″ color="#000000″ border="0px none #ffff" shadow="0px 0px 0px #ffff"]Illustrator bio:

Amy O’Neil graduated from University of the Arts London. She spends her time writing fiction, drawing and travelling with her partner and son. She currently lives in Latvia, where she’s finishing her first novel. If you’d like to get in touch with Amy, you can email her at amygrace2@gmail.com.

  1. Nice story! It’s fascinating to see this approach to parenting. I’m curious of a couple of things. In this passage:

    “Does anybody tell them they?ve done this wrong or that wrong, and that they need to think about what they did and change or improve their behaviour, like they do with me?

    They can be just as they are: to like and not like how things go, and be sad, angry or upset if that?s how they feel, because preferences and feelings are allowed.”

    If the child has behaviour that needs to be corrected like if they hit another child, is the idea that they are allowed to feel their angry feelings… but what to do about the behaviour that resulted from those feelings?

    When raising your daughter with these values do you see how she’s developed differently than most children who are brought up with labels like “naughty”?

  2. Hi Kiva
    Thank you for your comments. For me the rule is all feelings are allowed, but we can teach our children to take responsibility for their behaviour by helping them develop self-awareness and empathy, and to make good decisions. So we want to help children develop questioning and self-reflection skills so that they are more able to understand and communicate effectively, without adults blaming and shaming them, causing internal hurt and possibly damage.
    I think it is difficult to see the results of our parenting because we can?t compare with how our child would have been if we had done it another way (what is nature and what is nurture?), and as a parent I got things wrong and make mistakes. We influence, but by how much and in what ways is not so easy to measure. Also although I refused to believe in naughty everyone else did, including my daughter.

  3. It’s interesting that you say your daughter did choose to believe in naughty regardless of your belief. One difficulty that occurs to me is that if a parent takes this approach, not believing in naughty (which I tend to agree with), but other ‘authority figures’ in the child’s life (such as teachers) do believe in naughty, it would be more challenging for the parent to get their message across?unfortunately.

  4. Sounds like a really good approach to parenting to focus so much on self-awareness and empathy. These are super valuable things to learn!

  5. Naughty actually comes from Naught which referred to nothing, or being worthless. So in a sense when we apply that word, as in this case to children, we are in affect labeling them as worthless, or being worthless. The opposite of this then is focusing on the concept of obeying, participating, following a set order or rules or behaving. Behaving like conforming, means to conform ones behavior into someone elses or some institutions concept of what is an acceptable manner in which a person should act within their moment or in their relationships with others. I agree that children should not be taught the concept that they are worthless or being naughty, nor scolded, nor forced to lower their self-esteem. After all children are our evolution, therefore it seems counterproductive that an adult would want a child to behave like they do, or like they expect the child to behave. As a child brings the future and comes from our own evolution, we cannot expect them then to be like us, because they are not like us. They are the better version of us, from who we could learn, instead of scold or reprimand merely because they are “acting like a child”. As I always heard as a child, and continue to hear other parents with their children “be good, obey your parents, follow the rules.”. Santa Claus knows who’s been naughty or nice. The idea to reward children with material things for teaching them to be conformists and not individuals. The natural rebellion in a child, should encouraged not stifled. Because the foundation of this rebellion is the evolutionary desire to advance into something different than what was. The modern family power structure treats the youngest as the stupidest and the oldest as the smartest. Contrary to this, the youngest is actually the smartest and their voice should not be stifled, neither their rebellion. This is why we always repeat the mistakes of the past because we refuse to allow the future to evolve. The future being our children.

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